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+ing verbs WITH or WITHOUT "by"



viggia (F)
Italy

+ing verbs WITH or WITHOUT "by"
 
Sorry to bother with this matter again (last time I do promise!Wink).
 
Thanx to all of you who submitted their precious posts yesterday (see topic
 
Goodnesses:  To express the means (by +noun) or manner of doing something (by+verb+ing) :
 
Eventually, should we then say :  "Complete the sentences by using the words from  the box" WackoWacko??????
 
As I remember having been corrected by a native speaker about that.
But I keep seeing +ing verbs without "by"  in textbooks for EN coursesWackoWacko. Unfortunately, I cannot ask this person to clarify it......
 
Any mother tougue / native speaker araound that might ........solve this kind of little Wink "dilemma" ?
 
Ciao
Viggia

25 Oct 2008      





Zora
Canada

I�ve taught grammar for years and there isn�t a clear rule on the "ing" + by. It�s sort of like the phrasal verbs, you just kind of have to know by studying them and using them, which go with which form. Also, the answer to your question is yes, the sentence . "Complete the sentences by using the words from  the box" is correct.

25 Oct 2008     



puspita
Indonesia

If I�m not mistaken, we use a gerund (v-ing) after preposition; therefore, �by using�  is correct.

25 Oct 2008     



viggia (F)
Italy

Thank you all for your replies. Now it is much clearer    .
 
Bye for now.
Viggia

25 Oct 2008     



goodnesses
Algeria

Hi , viggia (F)
Italy

In the example given "by+adverbial of manner" the "by" can be omitted.

25 Oct 2008