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Grammar and Linguistics > Can you say "At 5 pm, Johnny will have learned how to use all Future Tenses!"
Can you say "At 5 pm, Johnny will have learned how to use all Future Tenses!"
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Panteleimon
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Can you say "At 5 pm, Johnny will have learned how to use all Future Tenses!"
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Can you say "At 5 pm, Johnny will have learned how to use all Future Tenses!"
or better "by 5pm" I just want to know if "at" is applicable for future perfect!
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3 Dec 2010
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Redbull
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Personally I would use by 5pm, Johnny will have learned how to use all future tenses.
But nothing wrong with at 5pm, Johnny will have learned how to use all future tenses. REDBULL GIVES YOU WINGS YOU KNOW  . |
3 Dec 2010
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yanogator
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As Redbull said, "at" isn �t wrong, but people wouldn �t say it, because nothing is happening at 5pm. The learning will happen before then.
Bruce |
3 Dec 2010
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el_profe55
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both of them are correct, but personally I would use by
Have a nice day!
Alex Carr |
3 Dec 2010
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Panteleimon
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Bruce
"As Redbull said, "at" isn �t wrong, but
people wouldn �t say it, because nothing is happening at 5pm. The
learning will happen before then"
This is not applicable to Greece because learning actually occurs after school when private tutorials begin for students. So learning in Greece actually occurs after 4 pm
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3 Dec 2010
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magneto
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That is SO not fair, Panteleimon! This is exactly the kind of attitude that makes students not pay attention at school, no matter how hard teachers try...
How would it sound to you if state school teachers started saying that private teachers usually only have the Certificate of Proficiency and no University Degree (ergo, private teachers may have a good grasp of the language, but no cultural or pedagogical knowledge)? Doesn �t sound nice, does it?
I know I �d never say that, because I �ve also worked as a private teacher and I know that there are many good colleagues in them and that a University Degree doesn �t necessarily make you a good teacher...I �ve met some great colleagues both in private and in state education, just as I �ve met bad teachers in both...
So be careful when you say that children don �t learn at school; there are many who don �t learn during private tutorials or private language schools, either, because they just don �t want to learn or because teachers in the private field (have to) lie about their students � achievement, only because they (or their bosses) don �t want to lose "customers"...
Thank you.
P.S.: We teach our students that they shouldn�t make generalisations, as they�re the root of all sorts of prejudice. Wouldn�t that sound more convincing if we set an example ourselves?
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3 Dec 2010
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