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ngthsang
Vietnam

which one?
 
please help me with this sentence
 
*This is the photo of the hero.................our teacher talked about in the lecture.
    A.who     B.whom     C.which     D.where

7 Apr 2015      





isa2
Austria

A. who (because the relative clause refers to the teacher talking about the hero; he was not talking about the photo)

7 Apr 2015     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Agree with isa. A while ago, it would have been �whom � but that has gone out of the language (more or less...)

7 Apr 2015     



yanogator
United States

There are still plenty of English teachers who would say that it is "whom", but Isa and Lynn are correct that it is "who".

 

Bruce 

7 Apr 2015     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

I secretly regret the loss of �whom �. It allowed you to show you were educated. Now, if you use it, people look at you as if you were from outer space.

7 Apr 2015     



ngthsang
Vietnam

Many thanks to Bruce isa2 and cunliffe. I know it, but i cannot use who because the textbooks in VN have still used such a whom.

7 Apr 2015     



valodra
France

This is the photo of the hero.................our teacher talked about in the lecture.
    A.who     B.whom     C.which     D.where

I would have said : � This is the photo of the hero our teacher talked about in the lecture � :-S

I would not use whom, but I wouldn �t use who either....Am I wrong ???

Thank you for enlightening me! ;-)) ( & thank you for the question, dear colleague !)

Val

7 Apr 2015     



yanogator
United States

Yes, valodra, your version is also correct, and even more common, but that was not one of the options given.

Bruce
 

7 Apr 2015     



valodra
France

Thank you so much , Bruce.

Actually, I even tell my students that who - in this case - is wrong. ie = Who is always a subject :

This is a photo of the hero who saved so many people ( who : subject. )
This is a photo of the hero . Our teacher talked about this hero ( relative pronoun not a subject here, "who" is impossible...) I once learnt "whom" had been replaced by....no relative pronoun ( when not a subject...) Hope I �m clear ;-))
Have a nice day/ evening
Val 

7 Apr 2015     



yanogator
United States

Well, Val, in current usage, what you are teaching isn �t correct, but it does simplify the matter. However, it doesn �t work after a comma.

For example:

  You might remember John, whom you taught five years ago.  Today �s speakers would say "You might remember John, who you taught five years ago.", but it can �t be said without a pronoun.
 
Bruce 

7 Apr 2015     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

@ngthsang �whom � is indeed, technically correct and to be fair, I do hear it from time to time. Someone on the news used it only yesterday. However, most people don �t use it and certainly, nobody under, say, forty, would use it, unless they wanted to make a statement about themselves. I wonder what dear almaz would have to say about it...

7 Apr 2015     

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