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questions focussing on ordinal numbers



gharbi2009
Tunisia

questions focussing on ordinal numbers
 
He is the second president of our country. How can I ask a question about the underlined word? I will appreciate your help

15 Oct 2015      





Tapioca
United Kingdom

That �s a bit of a tough one!
 
 
It �s not exactly the same, but how about:
 
"How many presidents were there before him?"
or
"Was he the fourth president of our country?"  ---> "No, he was the second."

15 Oct 2015     



SaraMariam
United States

Which (or what) number president was John Adams? /
Which (or what) number was president John Adams? 

15 Oct 2015     



Tapioca
United Kingdom

Sara �s right, you could ask �Which number president was Zine El Abidine Ben Ali? � but it �s not the kind of question you �re likely to hear often in real life unless there was a conversation about the topic beforehand. If you �re teaching ordinal numbers, I would try to find or create questions that your students are more likely to need in real life. Questions especially constructed to elicit a particular response can end up sounding very strange and unreal.
 
Or you could provide the structure for the response:
 
Q Which number president was George Bush?
A There were _____ before him. That makes him the _____ President of the United States"
 
But I still don �t like asking "What number was he?" unless we �re talking about football players. And then it woudln �t be an ordinal number anyway.
 
 
 
 

16 Oct 2015     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Is he the first or the second president of your (our) country?

16 Oct 2015     



Tapioca
United Kingdom

Hi Cunliffe:-)
 
Yeah, but then you �re providing the answer in the question, plus you �ve only got a fifty percent chance of getting it wrong... ;-) I got the feeling he wanted a question that would elicit the ordinal without offering it. That actually really hard to do and I wonder if it �s really worth the effort if your aim is to teach ordinals.
 
It �s a bit like saying, �Okay guys, I need an example causative sentence but it has to mention an elephant, two aubergines, and an incident involving a two truck and the sentence has to end with an asterisk".
 

16 Oct 2015     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Just as you like, Tapioca. 

16 Oct 2015     



Tapioca
United Kingdom

I need to drink less coffee in the morning ;-)

16 Oct 2015     



Jayho
Australia

Which number president is between the first and the third president?
 
Which number president was two presidents before the fourth president?
 
Cheers
 
Jayho
 
P.S. Tap - At which number cup of coffee did you decide that you must drink less coffee in the morning? ;-)

16 Oct 2015     



Tapioca
United Kingdom

@Jayho I think it was my third, I �m not sure, but it was definitely after cunliffe reminded me that I need to more conciliatory and less flippant... ;-)
 
 
 
btw I think your questions avoid the pitholes (potholes?) neatly but it might be time to stop counting Presidents and just give our students a list of the ordinal numbers and say "Here, learn this list for homework. There �s a test tomorrow!" Actually, that gives me an idea for a printable....! :-D

16 Oct 2015     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Hi Tap
I didn �t remind you about anything. I did think your response to my answer to a member �s question was slightly over the top and... strange. I admired your riposte, though, about the coffee. 
Jayho, actually, I don �t think your questions work, although they are quite ingenious. 

16 Oct 2015     

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