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janaesl
Saudi Arabia

grammar
 
good afternoon teachers. i would like to ask you all a very important question.
could you select the correct answer
the question was 
rewrite the sentence. use than
they don´t live as far away as i thought  (  than )
 
they don �t live further than i thought
they live further than i thought
they live nearer than i thought 
 
thanks in advance waiting for your rapid reply
regards
tara 
 

24 Jan 2017      





redcamarocruiser
United States

In AE I would say "further away".

Edit: After seeing Bruce�s and Douglas�comments below, further checking has helped me see 
that "further away"isnot standard English usage for physical distance, and should be used only
 for figurative distance.

Also, there is a song called Further away. The chorus goes
You�ve been growing up
You�ve been growing on
Further away from us now


The incorrect usage of "further away" can be heard in the US in some circles,
just as the incorrect �ain�t� can be heard in place of �isn�t�.  

24 Jan 2017     



douglas
United States

"they live nearer than I thought"
 
 
would be correct (as I see it)

24 Jan 2017     



Gi2gi
Georgia

Just a quick thought, would any of you prefer to use " farther" in this case, or has "further" devoured "farther" as far as physical distance is concerned?�

24 Jan 2017     



yanogator
United States

I agree with Douglas, since we don �t want to change the meaning.
 
@Giorgi, I still use "farther" for distance and "further" for degree, although I see the distinction disappearing, unfortunately.
 
In light of that, I would never say "further away", even as I start to accept hearing "further" used for distance.
 
Bruce 

24 Jan 2017     



keramina
France

What about ?  "They don �t live farther than I thought they would" or "they live nearer than I thought they would".

24 Jan 2017     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

I thought they lived farther away than they do. 

Edit: Actually, I would say �further� but I�ve been shamed into putting �farther�. WinkBig smile

24 Jan 2017     



yanogator
United States

I like Lynne �s new suggestion.
 
Ah, shame, the teacher �s effective weapon!
 
Bruce 

24 Jan 2017     



redcamarocruiser
United States

Well, if two educated women (Lynne and myself) would say "further away" 
maybe it isn �t wrong, afterall.
 
I found a site that says further away is also correct.
 
1. The mountain peak was farther away than she expected.
 -OR- The mountain peak was further away than she expected. 
(Either farther or further is correct but farther is preferred.) 
 
Also the Learner �s dictionary allows it 
 
 
Learner �s definition of FURTHER
1
: to or at a more distant place or time : farther
He lives further (away) from the office
 than his boss.
 

24 Jan 2017     



almaz
United Kingdom

There�s nothing wrong with further to refer to distance. It�s a matter of stylistic choice. 
 
The distinction seems to be a peculiar American shibboleth:
 

1) "This is not a rule, however, and further is often used for physical distances. The distinction does not exist in the U.K. and elsewhere in the (British) Commonwealth of Nations, where further is preferred for all senses of the word and farther is rare."

(Grammarist)

 

2) "It�s also different in British English. For example, Garner�s Modern English Usage notes that the British use both "further" and "farther" for physical distance."

(Grammar Girl)


3) "The British evidence in our files shows further more common than farther in all senses."

(Merriam-Webster�s Dictionary of English Usage)


4) "We use both farther and further to talk about distance. There is no difference in meaning."

(Michael Swan, Practical English Usage)

25 Jan 2017     



Jayho
Australia

If you used �farther� in my neck of the woods you would get a very strange look.  �Farther� is rather old fashioned and rarely used by anyone born post 1960.
 
Further away is commonly used here.
 
Jackson Browne has a song called Farther On.
 
Cheers
 
Jayo

25 Jan 2017     

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