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ıs it possible to use past perfect after the conjunction by the time?



space
Turkey

ıs it possible to use past perfect after the conjunction by the time?
 
by the time I had done my shopping and cleaned the house, Saturday was nearly over.
 
this sentence is from a grammar book and one of my students asked me whether this sentence is correct or not.As far as I know , after the conjunction "by the time " we generally use simple past and this is a rule.
I checked online and some people said that it can be used like that too.But I am in doubt.
So could anyone help me with this sentence please.
thank you. 

14 May 2018      



cunliffe
United Kingdom

That sentence is absolutely fine. 

14 May 2018     



ldthemagicman
United Kingdom

Space:

I cannot find ‘A Rule’ such as you describe.

“By the time I HAD DONE my shopping and (HAD) CLEANED the house, Saturday WAS nearly over”.ü PAST PERFECT TENSE & PAST PERFECT TENSE & PAST SIMPLE TENSE

(“Saturday was nearly over by the time I had done my shopping and cleaned the house”.)ü

“Usually, by the time I DO my shopping and CLEAN the house, Saturday IS nearly over”.ü PRESENT SIMPLE TENSE & PRESENT SIMPLE TENSE & PRESENT SIMPLE TENSE

“Usually, by the time I HAVE DONE my shopping and HAVE CLEANED the house, Saturday IS nearly over”.ü PRESENT PERFECT TENSE & PRESENT PERFECT TENSE & PRESENT SIMPLE TENSE

“Last week, by the time I DID my shopping and CLEANED the house, Saturday WAS nearly over”.ü PAST SIMPLE TENSE & PAST SIMPLE TENSE & PAST SIMPLE TENSE

“Last week, by the time I HAD DONE my shopping and HAD CLEANED the house, Saturday WAS nearly over”.ü PAST PERFECT TENSE & PAST PERFECT TENSE & PAST SIMPLE TENSE

“Next week, by the time I DO my shopping and CLEAN the house, Saturday WILL BE nearly over”.ü PRESENT SIMPLE TENSE & PRESENT SIMPLE TENSE & FUTURE SIMPLE TENSE

“Next week, by the time I DO my shopping and CLEAN the house, Saturday WILL HAVE BEEN nearly over”.ü PRESENT SIMPLE TENSE & PRESENT SIMPLE TENSE & FUTURE PERFECT TENSE

I believe that these sentences are grammatically correct and are perfectly acceptable. There are probably others.

I hope that this helps you.

Les Douglas

14 May 2018     



space
Turkey

thanks a lot for the explanation.have a nice day.

15 May 2018