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the adjective is not in the same order ?!!
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Pretty3
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the adjective is not in the same order ?!!
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Hi, I have these two sentences in the student �s book: He �s wearnig a long-sleeved stripy shirt. He �s wearing a plain short-sleeved T-shirt . As you see , they are not in the same order. In the first sentence, the shape comes before the noun but not in the second one. Is there any rule ?? Thank a lot |
4 Feb 2015
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acaciasmom
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I don �t know that there is necessarily a "rule" it is just that this is the accepted form of sentences. I do object with your first sentence, because I don �t like the word "stripy" as it just doesn �t sound right. I think the sentence would be better if it read: He �s wearing a long-sleeve, striped shirt. I think you should research Noam Chomsky. I was watching a video in Grammars class the other day and he was in the video. The video makers talked a lot about the sentence Big red balloon. They asked people if the sentence would be okay if it said "red big balloon" and no one seemed to think that was acceptable. Chomsky is kind of the genius of linguistics. He has researched extensively WHY we say what we do. I would start by delving in there. :) Good Luck! -Ally |
4 Feb 2015
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tastybrain
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Actually, there is a rule though it often comes with exceptions. Look up the "Royal Order of Adjectives" and you will discover the answers that you seek. |
5 Feb 2015
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redcamarocruiser
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Royal order 1. Determiners � a, an, the, my, your, several, etc. 2. Observations � lovely, boring, stimulating, etc. 3. Size � tiny, small, huge, etc. 4. Shape � round, square, rectangular, etc. 5. Age � old, new, ancient, etc. 6. Color � red, blue, green, etc. 7. Origin � British, American, Mexican, etc. 8. Material � gold, copper, silk, etc. 9. Qualifier � limiters for compound nouns.
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5 Feb 2015
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redcamarocruiser
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Another adjective order rule - Opinion - an interesting book, a boring lecture
- Dimension - a big apple, a thin wallet
- Age - a new car, a modern building, an ancient ruin
- Shape - a square box, an oval mask, a round ball
- Color - a pink hat, a blue book, a black coat
- Origin - some Italian shoes, a Canadian town, an American car
- Material - a wooden box, a woolen sweater, a plastic toy
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5 Feb 2015
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redcamarocruiser
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He �s wearnig a long-sleeved stripy shirt. (dimension/size, color) (long-sleeved =dimension/size, stripy = color) He �s wearing a plain short-sleeved T-shirt . (dimension/size, shape) (plain = observation/opinion, short-sleeved = dimension/size, T = shape)
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5 Feb 2015
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Pretty3
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In the student �s book : stripy and plain are pattern.
The correct order in that book is: size or shape, texture , pattern or colour, material + noun.
OMG
it is confusing. |
5 Feb 2015
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Apodo
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We often use the informal word stripy instead of striped especially if we mention only one dominant colour. For me common usage places �plain � first.
plain green cotton shirt. plain white long-sleeved shirt. plain blue T-shirt a short sleeved red and white striped polyester T-shirt short sleeved checked shirt short sleeved red and white checked shirt Long sleeved blue stripy shirt
Plain can also be the opposite of frilly or fancy. She wore a plain black dress. She wore a frilly black dress. - Both of these are without any pattern.
Edit: Yes, as Zora said - It can be considered an observation or opinion.
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5 Feb 2015
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Zora
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Actually, "plain" here can also be an "observation" (or opinion as I like to call it.) You might think this shirt is plain, bland, just ho hum... but for another it might be fine, elegant, simple, refined, understated, etc. That is why it comes before and not after like striped/stripy.
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5 Feb 2015
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