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 missola
 
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							| Thank you Bruce for you answer. I can say now that I �m convinced in this answer in this situation that you said. But could it also apply if we don �t have this situation in mind?     |  26 Feb 2010     
					
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 isabelle99
 
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							| Miss Noor, I LUV your requests because thanks to them, I use my brain a little more than usual! |  26 Feb 2010     
					
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 miss noor
 
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							| Bruce Thanks a lot . it is a good explanation.   Now I �m convinced in your answer. |  26 Feb 2010     
					
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 libertybelle
 
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							| Missola - you may be surrounded by English speakers - but Zora and I grew up with English.
 We eat, sleep, breath and dream in English. We know more than just the words - we understand what lies beneath, we catch the undertones and connotations.
 We understand how an inflection of the voice can change the meaning of a sentence.
 
 You can say "thank you" and mean thank you.
 You can also say "thank you" in such a way, that it means you �re welcome or the same to you.
 We understand figures of speech without taking the words literally.
 I do find it offensive that you doubt  us.
 
 How would you feel if someone doubted you in your native language?
 Not only are we native speakers - we are also teachers.
 
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 missola
 
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							| Libertybelle, I didn �t mean to offend anybody and I didn �t doubt anyone. All I wanted a grammar rule to support what you are saying and if you look again to my first reply to Zora, I told her that I can �t argue with a native speaker. Then I said that I �m still confused not because I �m in doubt of what you are saying but because I was thinking about the two sentences and needed a rule so I could follow it. If you were asked by your students "why should we use  �or � and not  �and �, you can �t say "because I said so". We have to give them reasons. Don �t you agree with me?   Anyways, I �m sorry if I offended anyone. I didn �t mean to do this.   Sorry again and my best regards to all of you.   Ola |  26 Feb 2010     
					
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 yanogator
 
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							| Oh, I forgot to comment on Miss Ola �s suggestion of "but I may not have time for neither." It should be "but I may not have time for either." Unlike many languages, in English we avoid double negatives.   Bruce |  27 Feb 2010     
					
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