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 Julia*
 
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							| Hello dear colleagues, 
 I need your help and the point is, I �m working at the moment with the grammar topic - word order: adjective + noun. According to the rule opinion adjectives (nice, beautiful) go before fact adjectives (sunny, hot, young) and there is a certain word order for fact adjectives: size-age-shape-colour-from where- made of.
 I have a problem with one word combination
 
 a cold day (rainy)
 
 I �ve placed the adj. like this - a cold rainy day  ,
 
 these are 2 fact adj. , but according to the rule of word order for fact adj. there is no explanation why these 2 adj. should be placed like this or the other way.
 
 I would grateful if you can help me to explain word order in this word combination.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
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 colibrita
 
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							| What an interesting question, something I �ve never thought about before. 
 Well, I did some digging and I found that apparently adjectives for temperature precede those concerning humidity!
 
 http://www.fortunecity.com/bally/durrus/153/gramch21.html
 
 And then halfway down is a long list of the order of attributive adjectives.
 
 
 Best wishes
 
 La Colibrita
 
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 MarionG
 
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							| Colibrita�s link is very useful indeed, but about cold and rainy, i would just explain it this way... What is cold for me here (in Jerusalem) isn �t what my parents in Holland consider cold....  �cold � is subjective so i would put it in front of rainy........... |  14 Jun 2010     
					
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 Julia*
 
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							| Thanks a lot colibrita!!! The link is amazing!!! You �ve helped me a lot with this puzzling question! 
 
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 yanogator
 
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							| To me it would sound more natural to say, "It was a cold and rainy day."   Bruce |  14 Jun 2010     
					
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 yolprica
 
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							| Should we use "and" to join the adjectives before the noun? Yolanda |  14 Jun 2010     
					
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 bluebird4
 
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							| You can use "and" if you want to. Some people might say, "It was a cold, rainy day," and others might say, "It was a cold and rainy day."
 Either way is fine.
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