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 hongduyen
 
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							| Hi colleague, Do we use: "He, you and I have known each other for ten years" or "You, he and I have known each other for ten years" ?
 Please tell me and explain why, will you? Thanks a lot!!!!
 
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 douglas
 
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							| My opinion (just an opinion!):   "You, he and I..."  just out of politeness.   As a child, I was taught that you address the listener first and the speaker last out of politeness/courtesy to the listener (and not to sound egotistical)   Douglas |  23 Aug 2011     
					
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 ldthemagicman
 
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							| Dear Hongduyen,   "You,
he and I have known each other for ten years." �   Confirming what Douglas has just
written --- in �A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language�, Professor Randolph
Quirk and others, write (page 338):   � ... the rule of politeness which
stipulates that 1st Person Pronouns  should occur at the end ...�   You will know that, when we use Subject
Pronouns:        
i.           
The 1st
Person Singular is �I�; Plural is �we�.      
ii.           
The 2nd
Person Singular is �you�; Plural is also �you�.     iii.           
The 3rd
Person Singular is �he�, �she�, �it�; Plural is �they�.   On page 355, Quirk and others explain
that, when there are Pronouns, (or Proper Nouns), connected by �and�,
there is a particular order, which is regarded as grammatically �correct�, in formal usage.  However, these �rules� are often broken, in
informal usage.   Rather than quote the �rules�, I have
written several examples.   
 You (ii) and
     I (i) are friends.You, (ii) Peter (iii)
     and I (i) are friends.  ("You, he and I have known ...�)You, (ii), Mary, (iii) Peter
     (iii) and I (i)
     are friends.Peter (iii) and
     I (i) are good friends.We (i) have a lot to discuss, you (ii)
     and I (i).Freda (iii) and
     I (i) have finished.  We (i)
     can have lunch now.You (ii) and
     John (iii) can stop now.  You (ii) can both have your lunch.If you, (ii) Anna (iii) and I (i) have finished, we (i)
     can have lunch.You, (ii) May (iii), Thomas
     (iii)  and their dog (iii) are in the hotel.  You (ii) can all go home together.If you (ii) and
     John (iii) have finished, we (i)
     three can all go to lunch together. If you, (ii) John (iii) and I (i) have finished, we (i)
     can all go to dinner together. Mary (iii) and
     John (iii) are ready now. They (iii)
     can both go to London together.She (iii) and
     the Italian gentleman (iii) married.  They (iii) now both live in Rome.She (iii) and
     he (iii) married in Naples.  They have a daughter.  The family (iii)
     live in Sicily. It is possible that others may have different ideas, but I hope that I have helped you. 
 Les |  23 Aug 2011     
					
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 hongduyen
 
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							| Thanks you very much, Douglas and Les! You are wonderful to have such wonderful reply! Thanks again and a hug from Vietnam!   |  25 Aug 2011     
					
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