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							| the match started/has started  at 5 pm/   which one is correct? |  29 Nov 2011      
					
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							| This is a single occurrence in the past, so it is "The match started at 5 pm".   Bruce |  29 Nov 2011     
					
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							| We use past simple for the action which took place at a stated time in the past, so: The match started at 5 p. m. Sophia |  29 Nov 2011     
					
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							| "started" = Past Simple for definite and finished past actions - we �re always interested in the WHEN |  29 Nov 2011     
					
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							| how do I know so sure it is past? 5I may be talking at 5.oo pm! |  30 Nov 2011     
					
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							| Oh dear, I have accidentally removed my post instead of editing it...    I �ll write again later, haven �t got any time left right now, because I must go and teach a bunch of nice adults! ;-))   |  30 Nov 2011     
					
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							| @mirela.sorina    At exactly 5.00pm I would say  �The match is starting now �Any time after 5.00pm (even the next day) I would say:   The match started at 5pm.   If someone arrived while I was watching the match (after 5.00pm) I could say:   The match started at 5pm. (simple past when an exact time is given) or The match has started.  |  30 Nov 2011     
					
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							| I agree but if I say just 5 pm, I would not know for sure that is a past; it may as well be a vague period ; |  30 Nov 2011     
					
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							| But the choices you gave us at the start were "started" or "has started", so it was clearly in the past.   Bruce |  30 Nov 2011     
					
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							| @mirela   5 pm is definitely NOT "a vague period" but a certain point in time!   So if it �s lunchtime and you want to say that the football match is in a few hours, you can just use the Simple Present and say: The match starts at 5 pm. (Because it �s a scheduled future arrangement.)   Hope this helps... ;-)   You can also check the following link:     |  30 Nov 2011     
					
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