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 Kita19
 
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							| Rule - "m" before "p" and "b" 
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							| Hello!   Last week a student of mine asked me if we must always write "m" (instead of "n") before the letters "p" and "b" in English. This is a rule we apply in the portuguese language, but I�m not sure if this rule also exists in English!   Can anybody help me, please? I wanted to answer my student correctly...    Thanks a lot!   |  1 Feb 2009      
					
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 traceyo777
 
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							| Not sure about that but we do have i before e except after c. 
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 lomigue
 
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							| I�m not sure but amphibian, amply,amber, ambient,ambulance,employ and all the words that I KNOW WRITE WHITH M before the letters P and B. I hope help you |  1 Feb 2009     
					
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 Kita19
 
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							| Yes, lomigue, I can�t remember of any word that has "n" before "p" or "b" either, but they might exist...  is there a native speaker anywhere who can make this question disappear?  Just because if this rule really exists, I think native speakers should have been taught that in the primary school...   Thanks! |  1 Feb 2009     
					
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 littlecityblue
 
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							| No, there�s no rule in English like that.  Unpopular.  Unbutton.  No, definitely not. Sara |  1 Feb 2009     
					
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 Ivona
 
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							| There�s no strict rule, but changes do occur, e.g. with the prefix in- ... 
 in-competent, in-adequate, etc.
 
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 im-proper, im-perfect ... because of the labial �p�
 
 (That�s how much i remember what i learned at university
  . I should brush up on it. You never know...) 
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 Pinky Makus
 
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							| Has anyone mentioned silent letters?� I only remember discussing this when I did a unit on silent letters. 
 Think about words like lamb,� climb, and thumb.� The b is silent.� But words like lamp, crimp, and shrimp the m and the p are pronounced.� Does this help at all?
 
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 alien boy
 
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							| The spelling generally reflects the original pronunciation of the word. Originally the silent letters were sounded. As the spoken dialect changed/became socially more desirable  the word sound changed but not the spelling. 
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