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 racim
 
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							| Dear teachers,                                                                                                                     Can we use the   �s   after first names ending in "s"  for example =  Whose car is it ?                          It is James � .   or   :  It is James �s.  or both are correct ?  and how about surnames endind in "s" ?is it the same ?  for example =  Whose car is it ?                          It is the Smiths � .  or : It is the Smiths �s  . or both are correct ? 
                                                                  Thanks for your help |  8 Jan 2014      
					
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 MoodyMoody
 
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							| For singular proper names ending with s, you may use either a bare apostrophe or an apostrophe plus s. I usually tell my students to use the apostrophe and s so they don �t need to remember exceptions. So I would say "It is James �s" or "It is Mr. Williams �s." (Williams is a surname that ends with s.)   Plural proper names are treated the same as plural common nouns, with a bare apostrophe. For your second example, I would answer "It is the Smiths �." (Smith does not end with s, and the Smiths refers to the couple or the family.) If you have a surname that ends with s in the singular, then you make it plural before adding the apostrophe: "It is the Williamses �." However, as a side note, if the last name ends with y, do not change the y to I or add es for the plural. Example: "It is the Moodys �." |  8 Jan 2014     
					
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 rashou
 
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							| the  � is used only with plurals  ending in s |  9 Jan 2014     
					
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 MoodyMoody
 
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							| That �s true, rashou. However, racim specifically asked about people �s (there �s an example of what you mentioned) names, and names always use s for the plural. |  9 Jan 2014     
					
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 yanogator
 
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							| I completely agree with MoodyMoody. It is simplest to teach students to use     �s    for all singular nouns, and definitely correct. More complicated rules are also correct, but why complicate matters?   Bruce |  9 Jan 2014     
					
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