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CILB
Argentina

HELP!
 
I have a very simple question.
 
I was revising numbers today and students had to write the numbers on the board
 
Some numbers were over 100.
 
So I wrote the number 112 and one of the studets wrote "one hundred twelve".
 
I corrected it and I said "One hundred AND twelve. But the student told me she had
 
leart it without the "and".
 
I felt so confused but I told her she had to write "and"! 
 
Now Im in doubt. I was almost sure it was with "and".
 
Can you help me?

1 Apr 2009      





ESL
United States

we say it either way. The correct gramatical way is to add the "and" though.
 
There is a really neat website called www.ask.com. You can input any question and it will give you the answer.
 
Hope this helps!

1 Apr 2009     



CILB
Argentina

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! AND THANKS FOR THE LINK, IT �S REALLY USEFUL!!!

1 Apr 2009     



ESL
United States

anytime, my friend!

1 Apr 2009     



Abbes_Z
Morocco

Hi CILB,
 
Miss ESL of Illinois is definitely right; nothing more to add..!
 
�hope you have a great time! Smile

1 Apr 2009     



CILB
Argentina

Abbes! The one who helped me with the Arabic translation!    LOL
 
Thanks again!

1 Apr 2009     



lillizen
Brazil

BTW, I read your post and ended up finding this interesting site to read big numbers (without "and"):
http://www.mathcats.com/explore/reallybignumbers.html

And the explanation to the addition of and or not when reading numbers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences#Numbers:

"When saying or writing out numbers, the British will typically insert an and before the tens and units, as in one hundred and sixty-two or two thousand and three. In America, it is considered correct to drop the and, as in two thousand three."


Lilli.

1 Apr 2009     



gofish343
Ukraine

I �m an American.  In high school math class, we were taught that you do not say "and" when reading numbers aloud, unless you are using it as the decimal point or to introduce a fraction.  For example, we would say 112 "one hundred twelve,"  but if we saw 112.5 we would read it "one hundred twelve and five tenths."

1 Apr 2009     



eng789
Israel

I �m Canadian and I think that both are acceptable so that is what I tell my pupils.   I think it is important that kids know that there is often more than 1 possibility as we see here all the time when we discuss grammatical issues.  I would feel terrible if my student demanded that he was correct (because his mother tongue teacher said so) about something that can be said in a different way and still be correct.  How embarassing it would be for him.  We have to be careful.
Hug

1 Apr 2009     



alien boy
Japan

I �m sure there �s another really detailed discussion about this in the forum... I wonder if I can find the link... It �s really good. I know... it �s about years!

Here �s the 2nd part of the thread... http://www.eslprintables.com/forum/topic.asp?id=2737
but it �s really the first part that I want to share.

Oh well, I �ll look again later and add it to the thread.

By the way, I �m used to using �and � but that is primarily British English rather than North American.

Cheers!

1 Apr 2009