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Past Perfect or Past Simple ? - Please help .....



sigal birka
Israel

Past Perfect or Past Simple ? - Please help .....
 
What  is  the  correct  way  to  say - a  or  b: 
 
 a)  As  soon  as  i    h a d    s ee n  this  dress   i  knew  that  i  would  buy  it . 
 
       OR    
 
b) As  soon as i   s a w   this  dress  i  knew  that  i  would  buy  it .     ?
 
 
i know that  this is correct: as soon as the cops had caught him,they arrested him. 
 
but  in my grammar book  only (b)  was right.   Maybe  both  forms  are  ok?
 
 
PLEASE  -   I �D BE MOST THANKFUL FOR YOUR KIND ANSWER...    SEAGULL
 
 

24 Aug 2009      





vickyvar
Greece

Hello,
as fas as I know only the second sentence is correct: as soon as sth happened = when / after sth happened.
BUT: No sooner had I opened the door than the phone began to ring.

24 Aug 2009     



matteunsun
United Kingdom

They �re both acceptable,  but the meaning is a little different.  In a) there is a sequence: you saw the dress and THEN knew you would buy it.  In b) the two actions (seeing and knowing) occur concurrently...
Hope it helps

24 Aug 2009     



sigal birka
Israel

   I   AM   VERY  VERY  GRATEFUL  FOR  YOUR  (quick and clear) ANSWER  !! 
 
   I  suspected it but i wasn �t  sure.
   
   Many  Many  Thanks   :)

24 Aug 2009     



Spagman63
Hong Kong

I disagree. I think there is a sequence in both. Albeit, they are very close together in time. Simple past or past perfect is really up to the writer/speaker. Simple past is used for a past event that doesn �t state the exact time.  This is probably the better choice.

24 Aug 2009     



domnitza
Romania

I would use past Perfect Simple in order to express anteriority: first I saw, then I knew. So the correct sentence should be: As soon as I had seen .....I knew.

The only exception I know is with AFTER: After I saw .... I knew, because as far as I know AFTER implies anteriority, so no need to use Past Simple.

24 Aug 2009     



goodnesses
Algeria

May be this can make things more clear:

From: Michael Swan (Practicle English Usage)