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luisaluisa
Brazil

Body parts
 
I have been a teacher for more than thirty years and there is something that has bothered me all the way. I have talked about this to many other teachers and I still haven �t found anyone that could convince me I am wrong. I would like to get some thoughts from you guys out there.
The thing is: when we teach body parts, why do we "skip" some parts as if they were forbidden? Why don �t we teach our students to say penis, for example? Why do we jump from the belly to the legs as if there was nothing in between? Do you teach your students verbs like �pee � and �poop �? I am asking this because I remember when I first went to the US as an exchange students and I once had to go to the bathroom to pee and I didn �t know how to say it and was too embarrassed to ask. And I left the country after more than one year and I still didn �t know.
What do you think?

20 Sep 2009      





Tint
South Africa

When teaching students and preparing them for overseas life, I have always included what to say when needing to talk about private matters. Thing is, even in English, we wouldn�t use words like �penis� and such. There are euphemisms for �pee� and similar words that I teach. What I do believe in doing is preparing the student for medical emergencies in which case they may need to use words indicating private parts. A lot depends on the age and understanding of the student and whether or not the student would be best served by going overseas biologically correct words.

For example, I would never, in polite society (even in Brazil), excuse myself to go for a �poop� or �pee�. I�m sure you wouldn�t either ; ) In Brazil, I ask for the bathroom or toilet. You�d do the same in the US or the UK. Those other terms aren�t necessary at all.

20 Sep 2009     



David Lisgo
Japan

Hi,
 
When teaching body parts to children we usually use visuals and touch, so it seems obvious to me that we shouldn �t include some of the more private parts of the body, otherwise we will be bringing pornographic material into the classroom and �inappropriate actions � to say the least. Even the words pee and poop may be rude when translated into L1 or even into regular English, so again care should be taken.  Teaching questions like "May I use the toilet (bathroom)?" or "Where is the toilet (bathroom)?" are perfectly appropriate.  As to teaching more explicit vocabulary with older students, then I should say "Don �t!", unless your teaching medical people, students old enough to know can easily study these words on there own.
 
David

20 Sep 2009     



luisaluisa
Brazil

I was definitely not talking about bringing pornographic material into the classroom. As I don �t think a penis itself is pornographic especially if you consider every man has one. And I don �t think we should teach them to say "May I go  pee or poop?" instead of "May I use the toilet?" I just don �t understand why these words have to be a taboo when we think that if you don �t pee or poop you will certainly end up dying. And I am not defending turning our classes into something erotic. An ear lobe may be erotic while it is hard to see anything erotic in a biology book. In fact, I don �t see much difference between teaching arm and vagina. That was my point.

20 Sep 2009     



JulietaVL
Mexico

Luisa:
 
I think that if the majority of the people and population do not accept to show these parts of the body there is a reason for that
 
Some people consider these words "bad words"... maybe for you and your family there is no problem at all with them but it does not mean the rest of the people accept them and we as teachers have to act or teach as the majority thinks it is the correct.
 
If not, this would be a big problem
 
I agree with the other comments too.

20 Sep 2009     



goodnesses
Algeria

I think before a certain age (depends on countries cultural back grounds - 12/13 in Algeria) it is not the job of an English teacher to teach words related to intimate parts of the body. Maybe it is that of their biology teacher in the language they study biology  If you do so you can have serious problems in some countries where very little can make parents suspect people and teachers especially of paedophilia.

After a certain age students wouldn �t need a teacher to tell them these if they felt the need to learn them. They will always find a way by themselves; dictionaries, movies, internet... However, if we are teaching adults English for specific purposes there won �t be any problem. Yet most of us here aren �t ESP teachers teachers but ESL ones.

Regards.

20 Sep 2009     



Giovana Toniolo
Brazil

   Well, Luisa... I �m working as an Elglish teacher for a while, and I agree with you partially. I guess it depends on culture/country, and the students age, but when they have age/mature enough to understand it (as when they had studied in the Biology class before, for example), I think it �s not a problem to answer their questions about it, using the apropriate/correct names. If they "search" on the internet or movies, they �ll probably get only the "bad words". I don �t encourage them by saying these parts, but I usually answer them in a natural way.

20 Sep 2009     



Riley1.5
China

I would never teach intimate body parts to anyone under the age of eighteen for legal and cultural reasons. 
 
With university students and adults it is also important to consider whether you are working with a single sex or mixed class and if it is a single sex class whether you are the same sex as the students.
 
One trick I discovered accidentally with adults is to give out outline pictures of the body without private parts and get the students to label them.  I have done this many times and most students will stick to arms, legs, eyes, ears etc. 
 
But on one occasion some adult female students drew private parts on the bodies themselves and then asked me after class for the English words.  That saved them the embarrassment of asking in front of their classmates and meant that more prudish students were not exposed to anything they found offensive.  I would have preferred them to ask a female teacher but there wasn �t one in the school. 
 
Another consideration is that I feel it is important that students are allowed to learn the vocabulary that is important for them to communicate their ideas and interests.  These may not necessarily be yours or those of the text book author.
 
It turned out that the reason for their curiosity was that they had, or wanted, western boy friends and felt they needed to know these words.  This is quite a common reason for adult women to learn English in China and also for Chinese university students to go abroad where they feel they will have more freedom to enter into sexual relationships than they do in Chinese universities.  In those specific circumstances I felt justified in giving the students  the correct medical terms for the intimate body parts.   But I repeat that I would never do it with under 18s or in a whole class setting.
 
I �m afraid that I can �t post the outlines for labelling on this site because I copied them from a textbook.  But suitable outline drawings are not difficult to find on the internet if you want to try this.

20 Sep 2009