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pragmatic sentense



arthuro00
Mexico

pragmatic sentense
 
hi! everybody

my name is carlos
and iam a student
i have a subject call pragmatic and semantic
and
i did a test and it has 2 pragmatic sentences
and i want to know what is the pragmatic meaning in this sentences


first

A Roman medical doctor problem himself a:

specialist in women and other diseases.

 
i responded in my test that the doctor is a specialist in medical diseases related with the women

and my teacher said that it means that the women are diseases.



second

The sign at the concierge �s desk in an Athen �s hotel reads:

if you consider our help impolite, you should see the manager.


and for this i responded that if a person in this hotel has a problem and it can not resolve by the service person, he / she sould say to manager about it.

and my teacher say that the manager is more impolite that the service person.



and i want to know what do you understand in these pragmatic sentences



25 Nov 2009      





ksalomao
Brazil

In the first case your teacher is totally right. The use of the conjunction "and" adds ideas which complement each other.
Therefore, this statement can be easily understood the way your professor explained.
 
So, it would be better something like:
 
"A Roman medical doctor problem himself a:

specialist in women �s diseases and other diseases."

 
The second one, I believe that it might depend on the intonation as well. But, I really agree with your teacher once again. To avoid ambiguidies maybe the sentence should be clearer, such as:
 
"If you consider our help impolite, you should file a complaint to our manager"
 
I guess it would avoid misunderstandings.
 
That �s my opinion, but I am not saying I am right though.
 
=D
 
Good posting!

25 Nov 2009     



MarionG
Netherlands

I thought this site was not meant for students....
I like to see it as an equivalent of a teacher �s room where teachers can talk and change ideas, joke and bitch, find inspiration etc. without students listening ......

25 Nov 2009     



dennismychina
China

In both cases your teacher is correct.  It�s a play on words.

Like;� All water in this establishment is passed by the management�. Mmmmm

In women and other diseases, tells me that the women are also a diseases

And secondly it means that if you think I�m impolite you should see how impolite my manager is.

Enjoy.

 

25 Nov 2009     



donapeter
Romania

TRY this site:
( if the sentences are not taken from that site !!!!) 

Carlos, why do you call yourself Arturo in the brief description next to your avatar? 

25 Nov 2009     



cheezels
New Zealand

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25 Nov 2009     



HARIM
Morocco

Yes Carlos,

For the first sentence other is a presupposition trigger meaning that the speaker has already mentioned another disease prior to that trigger.Take this example:

"X is another sport". the word"another" means that the word before it is a sport too.
 
For the second sentence,I think the "s"possessive is missing.
Cheers

25 Nov 2009