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vaglio
Costa Rica

Could you please help me?
 
Dear collegues: I have been studying the difference between a phrase and a clause with my eleventh grade students and I got stuck in an evaluation question from our text book. Could you plese help me?

Please  the following fragment of a sentence and tell me what do you think:
 "A leading expert in the field of nutrition...."

Is this a phrase or a clause?
There are some options to cross out in order to classify the last fragment. The options are the following:

a. participial phrase
b. dependent clause
c. independent clause
d. prepositional phrase

I think it is a dependent clause, but it doesnt have a verb, so ...........I  got  pretty confused.............. Could you help me????     Which option is the correct one???

24 Aug 2010      





Zora
Canada

Hi there,

It looks as if it �s a "participial phrase"... a participial phrase has a present or past participle (-ing or -ed verb ending) and any modifiers, objects or any other complements. Although, "leading" is more an adjective than a verb here... not too sure on this one.
 

25 Aug 2010     



Olindalima ( F )
Portugal

Hi
Is the fragment you gave  the beginning of the sentence ??? you wrote with .......

or as you said afterwards  " is it the last fragment?

 ( There are some options to cross out in order to classify the last fragment. )

These tricky questions are always difficult to understand and, I am allways to feel them only as tricky. We can usually start a fight about n different ways to read and understnad them.
We can understand a sentence if and only if it is in a determined context, otherwise everyone can step ahead and give some other explanation.

Have you ever heard that silly joke
A teacher says:
Please, Bob, say a sentence starting with    I

And Bob says:
 I    is ...
And teacher corrects:
No, no, no: Always say : I am... , ok ?

And Little Bob says:
Ok; I am the the ninth letter of the alfabeth

Just to tell you that these are very, very difficult and can lead to  uncountable different ways of answers.
Yours, will be , most probably right, under certain circunstances
hugs

25 Aug 2010     



PhilipR
Thailand

I �d say it �s a noun phrase (most important words is �expert �), but since that �s not among the options, I �d go for dependent clause as well (although the misguided makers of this question seem not to know that most clauses usually contain a verb). 

One could argue that this is a question without a correct answer. It is definitely not suitable for a test where questions should be crystal clear and not lead to confusion or discussion.


25 Aug 2010     



Angelesbi
Argentina

Hello there! It �s a phrase due to the fact that clauses have a subject and a verb, and this example you gave here has not a verb.
A clause  contain phrases (noun phrase, verb phrase, etc, etc)
 
A leading expert in the field of nutrition...." (noun phrase)
 
A leading expert in the field of nutrition has opend a debate on whether to shorten the amount of cola that children ...."  (clause)


 

 



25 Aug 2010     



MarianaC
Argentina

I completely agree with PhilipR, none of the options is right to me either. As Angelesbi has pointed out in her example, your phrase seems to be the subject of a clause - a noun phrase, no verb in it... nothing more, nothing less.

25 Aug 2010