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josek
Argentina

Grammar question!
 
 I want to know if the possessive case is properly used in the following example: "Chris �s letter" Thanks in advance!

2 Oct 2010      





coyote.chus
Spain

Hi Josek,
The rule says that you have to add �s to all singular nouns, even to those ending in -s, like Chris or Charles, so we would have Chris �s car, Charles �s house. In fact, we have St James �s park in London. But nowadays we see Charles � or Chris � more often (I guess it is a question of economy)

2 Oct 2010     



josek
Argentina

Many Thanks Coyote!!!!

2 Oct 2010     



libertybelle
United States

The extra S is superfluous.
The extra S was used in older books and writings.
St. James�s Park is also an old name for an old Park.
Nowadays the possessive apostrophe comes after a name
ending in S.

The Jones � house.
Dickens�books are still popular.

2 Oct 2010     



douglas
United States

About a year ago this topic brought on a LOT of discussion here at ESLP and there was no final agreement between the two camps (use it with an " �s" vs Don �t).  Wikipedia explains it pretty well with:

For most singular nouns the ending �s is added; e.g., the cat �s whiskers.

  • If a singular noun ends with an S sound (spelled with -s, -se, for example), practice varies as to whether to add �s or the apostrophe alone. A widely accepted practice is to follow whichever spoken form is judged better: the boss �s shoes, Mrs Jones � hat (or Mrs Jones �s hat, if that spoken form is preferred). In many cases, both spoken and written forms differ between writers.

Strunk and White (a standard, but very old so they don �t really allow much for changes in the English language in the last 70 years) say to use an �s for all singulars, regardless of what they end in.

So I guess the choice is really yours.
 
Many people use the idiom "keeping up with the Jones�s", yet in other cases they say "Jones�" so I guess even us native speakers can�t really decide either.

3 Oct 2010