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Grammar Rules Vs Input?
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Redbull
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I didn �t really want this to turn into a debate.....but using Papadeli idea is very good.
more visuals like this is what I think I �m looking for? with the speaking. |
30 Jul 2012
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abdel
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hi everone,
The adjective order is "a grammar rule" in English as in many other languages. To sometimes facilitate the learning of matter like these to young learners, we just try to find "trick" - as somebody said- to help. In this context , i have always said to my kids: learn by heart the OSASCOMP trick. O= origin; S= size; A = age; S = shape; C = colour; M= material; P= purpose. Hence , a sentence like " big red car " follows the pattern ( Size Colour + noun).Apart from this , there is no answer to the question " why" , for language is arbitrary unless it is onomatopoeiac! Or else, why do we call the object with four legs on which we eat A TABLE. It could have been A PAN , A BOTTLE or any other word had people agreed to call it so long long time ago ( I DO NOT KNOW WHEN EXACTELY).
With all this in mind, I never find it harmful when a student says : red big table ! The same meaning is expressed and understood even by native speakers. These things are by themselves corrected in the long run. We never go on using OUR BABY WORDS when metathesis and other things are involved. Life experience makes us correct things !
Hugs from here.
PS: Redbull does not always give wings. It depends where it was fabricated. |
30 Jul 2012
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yanogator
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This wasn �t a debate, redbull, just an informative discussion.
Bruce |
31 Jul 2012
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abdel
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hi yanogator,
i agree with you. it has been a fruitful discussion so far. Unless the one who badly needs an answer accepts controversy , we will go nowhere!
Or else some people opt for ready made answers and websites and object to discussing!
keep discussing friend! |
31 Jul 2012
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