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Message board > ANY IDEAS?
ANY IDEAS?
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Zora
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... you know what? In the greater scheme of things... speaking and being able to communicate is what is really important.... so maybe as a teacher, who knows that her student has a problem - you could test her just orally... ALTHOUGH, if she is preparing something like First or Advanced, then this isn�t feasible...
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12 Jan 2009
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Greek Professor
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Yes .. agree with all the above...
..but what can be done when this student wants to sit for the proficiency exam.. which of course is also written..
I know something has to be done... im trying.. first language and and second language..
well it seems i have to try harder..
EVERYBODY THANKS AGAIN..ITS GOOD TO KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WILLING TO HELP YOU..
IM GRATEFUL TO YOU ALL.. |
12 Jan 2009
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Damielle
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This type of students is not "that" unusual" in the ESL class. They exist in all levels.
I think that he/she has developed a great proficiency of the language and now you have to help him/her to move to perfomance.The learning process implies a balance between both profiency and perfomance that may have been distorted.
You should search for some information by typing "enhancing speaking / writing perfomance in the esl class" or something like that.
Here you have some examples:
And if your student is trying to sit for an exam, I think that you should train him/her for that exam. There are some books that deal with that traiining and that practice may help him/her to improve his/her performance as well. |
12 Jan 2009
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Zora
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Here�s an idea, maybe your student should do "Trinity" or "TOEFL" instead - Trinity is a spoken exam and TOEFL is done by computer... not hand written like Cambridge exams.
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12 Jan 2009
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w3hw3t
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Hey Greek Professor,i had the same problem that u r talking about,i think it is most likely cause of student�s enviroment,Do u know the family,relatives or friends of the student?Are they kind of people who do oral production rather than written stuffs? |
12 Jan 2009
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Tere-arg
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Well...as you put it in your first message I understood you "questioned" your st about vocab and grammar.
One thing is to "question" and other to ask her/him to solve situations in which that specific vocab and grammar should be applied.
If he/she does well when speaking -producing orally- and has not problem to write, he/she should not have problems when writing.
I have noticed my students are more fluent and self-confident when producing orally than when writing but that is because we work all the time in that way and the written task -usually homework- is done in a hurry, without paying enough attention, while watching TV or doing any other thing...if ever done.
So, in my case, it is a question of practice.
Anyway, much more grammar and vocabulary are needed when writing than when speaking.
It is another question to consider.
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12 Jan 2009
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