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Quite/rather



Minka
Slovenia

Quite/rather
 
I came across this explanation: 

"He�s quite tall" means that he�s taller than average

"He�s rather tall" means his height is not quite right
(He �s too tall or something?).


Native speakers, please: Do you agree?


Thank you very much :) 

5 Nov 2012      





lurdesilva
Portugal

According to Oxford Wordpower Dictionary, rather is stronger than quite .
Maybe in this example it means he �s not as tall as you �d expect him to be, according to his age... I �m also interested in knowing the correct answer! Confused

5 Nov 2012     



pilarmham
Spain

As far as I know, he �s quite tall is emphatic, meaning he �s really tall , whereas he�s rather tall means he �s too tall, or there�s something that does not please you about his height.






5 Nov 2012     



Minka
Slovenia

I can �t find this negative meaning in a dictionary (or rather two of them)

5 Nov 2012     



yanogator
United States

In this case, "quite" means the same as "very".
 
We wouldn �t use "rather" in this description without a particular context. It indicates that his height could be a problem of some sort.
 
You �ll love Matt, but I �ll warn you that he �s rather tall, so be sure to wear heels when you go out with him.
 
Jim might be able to wear those trousers, but he �s rather tall, so they might be too short for him.
 
I told Mary about you, but she �s rather shy, so she might not agree to meet you.
 
My car is rather small, so you might not be comfortable in the back seat.
 
EDIT:
"Rather" is also used in a response to an extreme statement:
  I hear your brother is very rich.
  Yes, he is rather rich.
 
  This is the best cheesecake I�ve ever had.
  Yes, it is rather good, isn�t it?
 
I hope this helps.
 
Bruce

5 Nov 2012     



Minka
Slovenia

I can �t find this negative meaning in a dictionary (or rather two of them)

5 Nov 2012     



yanogator
United States

Minka,
I looked on Dictionary.com, and they don �t have it, either. I �m beginning to think that it might be more a US usage than British. It is the most common usage of "rather" in this sense here in the US.
 
Bruce

5 Nov 2012     



ueslteacher
Ukraine

http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/rather

Sophia

5 Nov 2012     



Minka
Slovenia

Thanks, all of you! Thanks, Sophia for this link. I see it now :)

5 Nov 2012     



c3ga
Turkey

In my school, there is a native speaker teacher and he says that:
rather equals to normal but quite means too

6 Nov 2012