GRAMMAR POINT

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GRAMMAR POINT

Greek Professor

GRAMMAR POINT

Hello all...
I have query!!!
Could someone enlighten me with the different please..I need a simple explanation for my students.

A) Not to have made
B) Never having done...

Sentence:
..........one, I wouldn ï¿½t have a clue.
B is the answer...

Thank you in advanced

7 Feb 2015

dmharg

You need present participle in Greek (since you are Greek) is (-ontas, mi exontas kani....)

7 Feb 2015

Greek Professor

And what does(A) mean????

7 Feb 2015

isa2

Can you specify the context, please?

7 Feb 2015

redcamarocruiser

Here are two possible contexts for such a construction (never having done):

How can they balance so long in a handstand?

Never having done one, I wouldn ï¿½t have a clue. (One = a handstand)

I have never done one, so I wouldn ï¿½t have the slightest idea of how it is done.

What is the procedure of replacing a heart valve?

Never having done one, I wouldn ï¿½t have a clue. (One = the valve replacement procedure)

I have never done one, so I wouldn ï¿½t have the slightest idea of how it is done.

Here are two possible contexts for the other construction (not to have made)

How silly of me not to have made the connection between music and mathematics. It is so obvious.

How silly of me not to have recognized the relationship between music and mathematics. It is so obvious.

People make choices today that their future selves would prefer not to have made.

People do things today that at some point, they will wish they had not done.

--Mary

7 Feb 2015

dmharg

Not to have made this one doesn ï¿½t make any sense to me and seems completely incorrect.

I have encountered it in structures like : You should not have made such a mistake. The past participle in the beggining of the sentence is translated (-menos) in Greek

8 Feb 2015

Gi2gi

"not to have made" is quite possible and correct, when you need a perfect infinitive form, as in the following sentence:

He seems not to have made the right decision. (He seems NOW that he did not make the right decision IN THE PAST)

Hope this helps.

Giorgi

8 Feb 2015