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sevcan3545
Turkey

helpppp
 
ı want to ask somethings. we can say "take your shoes off" but we cant say Look her grandfather after.why can �t we use this sturcture?  I have to say look after her grandmother.

21 Feb 2009      





HARIM
Morocco

Hi Sevcan,
In the first sentence,"your shoes" is the object of the verb "take"
In the second sentence,"her grandmother" is the object of the preposition "after"
What do other teachers think?
Nice day to all of you!

21 Feb 2009     



sevcan3545
Turkey

thanks for your reply. have a nıce day too.

21 Feb 2009     



nghiemvo
Vietnam

Dear sevcan,
 
They are phrasal verbs and there are two kinds: one we can seperate the verb and its particle (such as take off), the other can �t be seperated (look after).
 
 
 
 

21 Feb 2009     



sevcan3545
Turkey

how can ı catogireze them?for example clear up. clear it up or cealr up it?

21 Feb 2009     



Apryll12
Hungary

No!  when the object is a pronoun (him / her / it / them, etc) it always goes between the verb and the particle

For example, you can say: take off your shoes or take your shoes off -- both are correct

BUT take them off and NOT take off them*

21 Feb 2009     



freddie
Canada

I certainly agree with nghiemvo. When phrasal verbs take objects, some can be separated and others cannot.
 
Separable - take off, pick up, boot up 
We picked Mom up from work last night.
 I can boot up the computer or boot the computer up.
                   
 
Inseparable - put up with
We put up with him for as long as we could.

21 Feb 2009     



Apryll12
Hungary

by the way, you can check whether a phrasal verb is separable ot not in a dictionary: e.g. take sth off  -- it is separable, look after sth/sb -- non-separable

and a little help :) phrasal verbs with more than one particles/prepositions are always inseparable! e.g. run out of, look forward to, put up with, etc there are many more....

Have a nice day.

21 Feb 2009     



sirah
Argentina

Hi  antigone! take off is  a separable phrasal verb meaning removing your clothes,but it is an inseparable meaning when a plane rises from the ground. Maybe these links help you
http://www.englishpage.com/prepositions/phrasaldictionary.html
http://www.englishclub.com/vocabulary/phrasal-verbs-list.htm
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/630/03/
have a great day!

Patricia

21 Feb 2009     



sevcan3545
Turkey

thanks for your all replies. have a nice day :))

21 Feb 2009     



Tere-arg
Argentina

Hi antigone

Some phrasal verbs are separable; others aren�t.
How to know? Just by studying them in use.

Take off your shoes/Take your shoes off/Take them off.

When they are separable and the object is a pronoun, it must be placed immediately after the verb:

so you say take them off   NOT take off them

Not all phrasals take an object. 
There are even some which may take an object or not, depending on their meaning:

take off as remove is a transitive phrasal verb so it needs an object
Take off your coat.

take off as raise from land is intransitive: no object is needed.
The plane took off on time

Hope it helps

21 Feb 2009