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SUPER pronunciation



luglena
Ukraine

SUPER pronunciation
 
hello, everyone
how do you pronounce �super � (I see that both are correct, but what is more native)
1. [ �sjuːpə]
2. /ˈsuːpə/
 
different dictionaries- different variants
especially interested in native speakers � answers 
 

29 Nov 2018      





cunliffe
United Kingdom

The second one.
I think the first one, sjuper, is old fashioned. I don �t remember it being pronounced that way, but I remember my old dad calling my best friend Susan Syusan. 

29 Nov 2018     



ldthemagicman
United Kingdom

Dear luglena:
 
"How do you pronounce �super � (I see that both are correct, but what is more native)."
1. /ˈsjuːpə/
2. /ˈsuːpə/
 
 
"The Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary." 2008, page 488, gives the BRITISH pronunciation as:
1. /ˈsu:.pə/
2./ˈsju:.pə/
 
It give the US AMERICAN pronunciation as:
/ˈsu:.pə/
 
Like Lynne Cunliffe, I prefer /ˈsu:.pə/. 
 
Les Douglas 

29 Nov 2018     



luglena
Ukraine

thank you
I really appreciate your answers 

29 Nov 2018     



valodra
France

Well, Just like you Iuglena, I appreciate the answers ..!
I was told the wrong way, then :-(((
Thank you for your post, and thank you Cunliffe & Les !! 

29 Nov 2018     



yanogator
United States

Les, if the dictionary gives /ˈsu:.pə/ as the US pronunciation, then it �s wrong, because we pronounce the r at the end, more like  /ˈsu:.pər/
 
Bruce 

29 Nov 2018     



redcamarocruiser
United States

https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/super?r=76&src=ref&ch=the?r=76&src=ref&ch=the has the American pronunciation. You can hear the r  at the end, as Bruce said.

29 Nov 2018     



ldthemagicman
United Kingdom

Bruce, and redcamarocruiser,
You are both absolutely correct.
 
The Cambridge Dictionary does show the US pronunciation as having �r-colouring � in this word.
 
However, the question posed by luglena deals specifically with the difference in pronunciation between /�sju:/ and /�su:/.
The question makes no reference to a final �r � sound.
I tried to answer the question in the form that it was asked.
Moreover, I did not wish to be pedantic and introduce another factor into the explanation of the pronunciation.
Most of all, I did not want to belittle luglena �s sensible question.
 
I repeat, Bruce and redcamarocruiser ... you are both correct in what you say. The US pronunciation has the final �r � sound.
 
Les Douglas 

29 Nov 2018     



redcamarocruiser
United States

No worries, Les. Your posts are always SUPER!

29 Nov 2018     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Just to add that even though I am not young, I haven �t heard the �syuper � pronunciation at all, ever! Sorry not to use the phonetic transcription, I am too idle to figure out how to do it. Just out of interest, how on earth would you transcribe that American rrr thing, as I have no idea? Maybe supurr! Meow. Have a nice day!
Lynne  

30 Nov 2018     



ldthemagicman
United Kingdom

Dear Lynne,
 
Below are copies from Daniel Jones� Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary, 2008, page 488.
 
super UK ˈsuː.pəʳ, ˈsjuː- US ˈsuː.pɚ
supers -z

superabundan|ce UK ˌsuː.pᵊr.əˈbʌn.dən|t s, ˌsjuː- US ˌsuː-
superabundant -t
superabundantly -tli
 
superannu|ate UK ˌsuː.pᵊrˈ�n.ju|.eɪt, ˌsjuː- US ˌsuː-
superannuates -eɪts
superannuating -eɪ.tɪŋ -eɪ.t ̬ɪŋ
superannuated -eɪ.tɪd -eɪ.t ̬ɪd
 
It looks complicated ... Yes? Some of the symbols are TINY.
The superscript �r �, indicates that the syllable CAN have �r-colouring �, (that it CAN  end in a slightly sounded �r �.) 
Different regions, different groups, different individuals make their own choice of pronunciation in this matter.

You can see, in the compound words, �superabundance�, and �superannuate�, that these words, (in casual, informal, spoken English), DO have a sounded �r�.

SupeRABundance.

SupeRANNuate.

I hope that this helps.

Les

30 Nov 2018     

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