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relative pronouns



tommy1996
Vietnam

relative pronouns
 
Please tell me what relative pronouns do we have to use here?

The Irish people ______ I met were friendly and have great sense of humor.

Thanks

 

29 Mar 2019      





cunliffe
United Kingdom

I would definitely leave one out altogether. If you do add one, then �that� or �who�. In theory, it should be �whom� not �who�, but nobody uses that any more. You would sound like a text book. 

29 Mar 2019     



almaz
United Kingdom

Who, that and zero (no relativizer) are fine. Whom is grammatical, but rather stuffy in conversation.

29 Mar 2019     



valodra
France

That�s interesting from native speakers, because I �ve learnt the following :
- Who when the pronoun is subject : The Irish people who were friendly…...
- zero when object : The Irish people I met …… ( but not : The Irish people who I met …)
Could that be wrong ?
Val 

29 Mar 2019     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Hi Val, I don�t know, I�m not good on grammar. However, I agree with you, from my point of view as a native speaker, simply because it sounds odd and I would suggest no relative pronoun, or relativizer (like it!) there. 
Lynne 

29 Mar 2019     



valodra
France


Thx Lynne ! I - too - would use no relative pronoun here...
BUT 1/ I�ve learnt a new word : "relativizer". 2/ Have decided NOT to teach "whom" to my kids anymore.
Your posts ( Dear Native speakers ) are ( edit :) INvaluable ! And I warmly thank you. The languages taught in books are not always the languages people actually speak ( ex : whom )
Gee! this site is SO great ! ;-))
Have a great week end,
Val 

29 Mar 2019     



yanogator
United States

Hi, Val.
I hope you mean "invaluable" (not able to be valued), rather than "unvaluable" (having no value).
 
 
Bruce 

29 Mar 2019     



valodra
France

Jesus ! Thank you Bruce and Mary ;-)) Sooo sorry about that :-S. I�ve just corrected it :-)
Val 

30 Mar 2019     



cunliffe
United Kingdom

Would it be racist of me  to say that I agree with the original statement? Irish people always seem witty, full of fun and likeable and I love the accent. Although - I haven�t actually been to Ireland. I always go to Scotland. 
Lynne  

30 Mar 2019     



valodra
France

Well, dear Lynne,
You really should go there ;-) It�s the most beautiful country , wonderful people ! ( Am I overdoing it ?? ) I�ve been there 4 times ...and plan to go back - again & again :-)))  
( Loved your comment about teachers leaving the room - and being sacked !! )
Have a great weekend,
Val 

30 Mar 2019     



Aisha77
Spain

Oh Lynne, I�ve been myself in Ireland for two years, it was there where I learnt my English. It�s people, views, live music, sheep, castles, cottages, cliffs... are wondeerful. Sometimes you feel like in a fairy tale. I am in LOVE with this country, I really mean it. I was really wellcomed there and I felt like in my own country...
I have regretted all my life to have come back to Spain, but now everything is different, I have my house, my family, but I feel I have to go back there as soon as possible with all my family, so they have the pleasure to enjoy Eyre. 
As Val, I recommend everyone to visit this country at least once in life...
Have a great Sunday!
Aisha ;) 

31 Mar 2019