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Men and Women .. General discussion ???



Dalya
Kuwait

Men and Women .. General discussion ???
 
hi everybody
 
i thought maybe we need to refresh ourselves a little bit and discuss something new
 
 
I read an article by Maureen Dowd
 
it talks about a discovery
 
I wrote about it for article writing class, how about you talk a look at it and discuss it with me?
 
 
Ladies, It Is In Their Chromosomes
 

        Nothing in the world is more controversial than (as referred to on bioedonline.org) gender capability. Men had overtaken the world for years. They have set their rules and created the base that everything else was built on later on, when women started to take control. Both men and women are now trying to prove themselves in every single field in the society to show how capable they are. However, each gender was better in a side but worse in the other side.

 
        Related studies were made three years ago. And a new discovery was found. It was almost like a lost piece in a puzzle or a secret to be revealed as it was hard to be acknowledged. But it was approved by all women in the universe. Yes, it was that missing gene in male �s chromosomes.
 
        According to those studies, everybody �s behaviors were controlled by their chromosomes. Specialists said that the reason behind that huge gap between men and women is a single gene in the chromosomes; it is called the X-gene. The male chromosome consists of forty-five X-genes out of forty-six, and the forty-sixth is their (as called by the specialists) "pathetic Y-gene", while the female chromosome has a hundred percent of the X-gene arranged in pairs, that is forty-six X-genes out of forty-six. So there is one missing X-gene in the male �s chromosome that was substituted by the Y-gene.
 
        The scientists who worked on those studies were actually men. They said that that particular X-gene helps people to retain larger amounts of information (such as phone numbers and important dates) with regardless of the memorizing ability of the brain. It makes people more detailed about the things surrounding them. And it makes them more dedicated and hark-working. If you want to apply that to men and women, those scientists believed strongly that the reason behind men forgetting birthdays and women remembering them weeks earlier, is actually in their chromosomes. Unlike men, the reason why women like to have things cleaned up, to dress better, to arrive on time or even to take responsibility, is that they have one extra dose of the X-gene.
 
        Maureen Dowd, a famous writer in New York Times, wrote an article about this research few years ago. She started the article by saying "Men always telling me not to generalize about them. But a startling new study shows that science is backing me up here". Maureen was very excited about that new discovery. It was proved that men are alike, while women are very different from each other. Because men have forty-five X-genes arranged identically in their chromosomes and a single Y-gene that works only "under the waist and above the knees", that is why they always say "if you have met one man, you met them all", while women have forty-six X-genes arranged absolutely differently in each woman �s chromosome. It has been said that even twin girls have different X-gene arrangements. One of the authors of the study, Huntington Willard, said "men are, I hate to say it, predictable. But you cannot say that about women".
 
        Now we know all the good part of this whole story. But let us think about it for a while. Every woman knows that men always cover for each other and support each other. Then why would men now tell us that they are weaker all the way deep down to their chromosomes? Why would they tell women that the Y-gene that they have is pathetic? Is it just truth being told to the universe?
 
        I strongly believe that men are predictable, and yes, they have a bad memory when it comes to birthdays and anniversaries. But do they not remember other dates and appointments? Or even dates of previous accomplishments or things that matter to them? I think that men choose what dates they want to remember. Besides, many men in the world remember birthdays and anniversaries, and those who forget they can always create a reminder for themselves. Even women sometimes forget some important dates. It is not easy sometimes for human beings in general to remember something if their minds were busy.
 
        The study also tells that men are less dedicated and they always leave rooms behind them in a messy condition. The reason according to that study is the presence of the Y-gene (and the absence of the forty-sixth X-gene). Well, no one denies that women look more dedicated but there are many men in the world who accomplished things that created huge changes in the society. And men accomplished more things than women. So that does not make them less dedicated, but maybe they accomplish things in their own way.
 
        I do not think that Maureen Dowd and the scientists are on the same page here. I think the results are correct in the study, but as I see it, the scientists are using those studies more to defend men than to support Dowd �s opinions about them. It sounds like they want women to stop complaining about men �s behaviors by telling them "Ladies, it is in their chromosomes". It is like when a man forgets his wife �s birthday, he tells her "well, it is the chromosome, hun!" And then she is expected to forgive him thinking that deep in his heart he did not really want to forget her birthday. Even when it comes to being responsible, keeping things clean behind them, or even being detailed in their lives. They want women to overlook men �s mistakes and believe that there is nothing that can be done to change them.

 
        Looking back at the past, women have always tried to break traditions and accomplish something huge despite men �s control. Men, unfortunately, are not trying to improve themselves, they are trying to give excuses about their negative behaviors instead. And this is affecting their "glamorous" past very badly (when they were leading the world). But why not look at the bright side? This is opening a door to a "glamorous" future for women. Now that the world knows that women are "genetically" complete, everyone will be looking at them for a brighter future.
 
 
NOTE : i am not generalizing about all men and all women, I �m just saying what i think about the study. and maybe being sarcastic about it. so please don �t be mad about anything let �s just speak together nicely :)
 
 
So what do you think about everything ?

5 Jun 2009      





David Lisgo
Japan

It was our 30th wedding anniversary today and I certainly didn �t forget. I never forget and I look forward to the next 30 years; should God permit. 
 
I really dislike it when people pit men and women against each other.  We can achieve great things together.

5 Jun 2009     



Dalya
Kuwait

yes see !!
 
 this is what i was trying to say
 
there is no such thing as a single GENE that makes a man remember a birthday or an anniversary
 
as i mentioned earlier i disagree with the study and i was being sarcastic about it
 
as i said in the article if there were men forgetting birthdays then it �s "men chosing what they want to remember"
 
 
and yea surem as you �re saying ... now women are not neglicted in any field
 
they even drive trains !!
 
they �re welcomed everywhere
 
together they can do something huge
 
 
 
thank you for your reply

5 Jun 2009     



Spagman63
Hong Kong

as i said in the article if there were men forgetting birthdays then it �s "men chosing what they want to remember"
Do you REALLY think men CHOOSE to forget a special date? Come on! Maybe they have other things on their mind.  Maybe they are too self centered to remember. However, I don �t think they consciously make an effort to forget.  You might as well make a post on religion or politics while you are at it.  It may be less controversial. lol  Studies are biased. One says drink milk another says don �t drink milk. It all depends on who is funding the study.

5 Jun 2009     



eng789
Israel

Isn �t it true that men are missing the "multi tasking" gene so it is asking too much from them to remember a number of things at one time.  Approve

5 Jun 2009     



cheezels
New Zealand

The only thing I want to know is why Mr Swedish can eat only 1 or 2 chocolates but I eat 15.....

5 Jun 2009     



Nebal
Lebanon

Hi Dalya,
Well, I stand against the studies. Who said that all men are alike??? No way!!!!
Who said men don �t love details or don �t remember important dates??
Nothing can be generalized !
What I believe in is that it �s all a matter of personalities � and interests � differences. What �s important for someone might not be for the other, regardless the gender.
 
You see men, I �m defending u in a world where " some" women are attacking you!!! Wink
 
The feminist would hate me for that!!!Confused

5 Jun 2009     



Spagman63
Hong Kong

Nebal,
What are you after? LOL

5 Jun 2009     



Nebal
Lebanon

What do you think??? You have such kind of intentions and wide imagination!!!!
I mean what I wrote. LoL!!!

5 Jun 2009     



Dalya
Kuwait

loool Hi all again
 
Oh no i don �t think that they choose to forget a special day
 
again i �m being sarcastic about that study because i disagree with it
 
 
 
 
 
well, it �s been said so ..
it �s been said that men are less capable when it comes to their brain functions or whatever that was called
 
but i disagree i think they can manage somehow Only IF THEY WANT TO lol
 
don �t you think ?
 
 
 
LOOOOOOOOL it was good to have you in this discussion cheezels
 
 
 
hehehe i hope i don �t look like i was attacking them
 
 
AGAIN PEOPLE : I am being sarcastic in my article because i disagree with the study
 
 
I think you �re right Nebal, as i said in my article some men do remember birthdays and those who forget they always have reminders and stuff
 
i am defending too looool

5 Jun 2009