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ESL forum > Grammar and Linguistics > PAST PERFECT PROBLEM? CAN ANYONE HELP ME CLEAR MY DOUBTS!?!? =)    

PAST PERFECT PROBLEM? CAN ANYONE HELP ME CLEAR MY DOUBTS!?!? =)



aldanaVenadoTuerto
Argentina

PAST PERFECT PROBLEM? CAN ANYONE HELP ME CLEAR MY DOUBTS!?!? =)
 
hI EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!
 
Is this sentence correct?
 
"she had had her car for ten years, but she sold it last month"
 
 
Can anyone give me more examples with the past perfect "had had"? Since I cannot think of any good ones and my student is having trouble with this one in particular.
 
 
THANKS IN ADVANCE
 
aldana

17 Jun 2009      



peiolei
Spain

Mary īs dog died last week. She had had it for twelve years.
I hope it helps,
Paola

17 Jun 2009     



anitarobi
Croatia

Before I bought a new car, I īd had a terrible, old, smoke-making Fiat, but I loved it.
 
My father had had a great time while working as a flight instructor, but then he became a pilot and everything became too serious.
 
Peter had just had a shower when the robbers broke into his house, so he just stood there, wrapped in his towel, dripping on the floor and wondered whether to put his hands up or not.
 
 
maybe some other people will have more ideas....
Anita
 
PS: your sentence is correct

17 Jun 2009     



anitarobi
Croatia

from  http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv343.shtml
 
 
had had
 
Had had is the past perfect form of have when it is used as a main verb to describe our experiences and actions. We use the past perfect when we are talking about the past and want to refer back to an earlier past time, Madiini. In these examples, note the use of before, after, already and by the time as a trigger for the past perfect. Note also that the contracted form of had had is īd had.
 
She īd had a lot to drink and wasn īt capable of walking home by herself.
 
After he īd had a good night īs sleep, he felt much better.
 
She sacked him before he had had a chance to explain his behaviour.
 
By the time he was twenty he īd already had four different jobs.
 
I īd already had a word with Joan about re-locating to Manchester and now she īs had time to think about it, she quite likes the idea.
 
Note that past perfect forms are a feature of if-clauses in the third type of conditional sentence when we are explaining past actions or regretting past inaction. Thus, had had is likely to appear in this construction:
 
If I hadn īt had a good education, I would never have got this job.
 
If she had had children later in life, she would have been a better mother.
 
If I īd had another ten minutes, I would īve finished the examination paper.
 
Had they had any savings they didn īt need, they would īve re-paid their son īs student loan.
 
Anita

17 Jun 2009     



Zora
Canada

Hey Aldana...

"she had had her car for ten years, but she sold it last month" - is correct.

And just a short grammar lesson: The Past Perfect is used to designate the first thing that happened in the Past.

Example:

She had woken up early and washed her hair before she went to the market and bought some fruit.

When they got to the theatre, the play had already started...

John had always wanted a car until his sister bought him a motorbike.

Harry ate the soup for lunch, although he had felt ill that morning in class.

See... each sentence tells you what happened first... Smile

17 Jun 2009     



aldanaVenadoTuerto
Argentina

THANKS SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!
 
 
 
 
YOU ARE ALL THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!!!

17 Jun 2009     



Spagman63
Hong Kong

Nebal,
LOL You are a walking textbook.:)

17 Jun 2009     



kindlei
Argentina

Yesterdat I thought of many examples to share with you but I realised that you had had a lot of help!
Bye!

17 Jun 2009     



joy2bill
Australia

I have the same trouble with my students but once they realise that:
 
1  the first "had" is the auxiliary and so it never changes ie it is always there
 
2  the second "had" is just the past participle and therefore is acting like all other past participles
 
then they usually have no more problems.
 
It īs not really the past perfect that is the problem but rather the confusion over
 two "had"s.
But you probably know this already.
Cheers, Joy

17 Jun 2009