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Vickiii
New Zealand

Wow what a conundrum we are creating!Wacko

"You should know"  I took this as meaning - just in case you weren�t aware, I want to help you.  Because of the rest of the tone of the message left for dabauer, the only way i could interpret the �You should know� comment was in a positive way.  Now that you point out the literal meaning, I can see how it could be interpreted as being a put down - but truly i do not believe this was the intention.  The thing is - where I come from - it is very rare to say "You should know" in a negative term - we use it more as a comment to say "I would like to help because it seems you are unaware..." 

I agree with you Frenchie, our past experiences truly do (needed to correct this - i had written does!) contribute to how we interpret things.  I prefer to take the nicest possible interpretation everytime as it helps me feel good about myself.  I refuse to let others have control over my emotions. 

This means if you are trying to insult me you had better be very blunt and straight to the point.  If you try to be horrible subtely - it would never work on me!LOL  EG - if I comment to often on the forum - the only way to get me to stop is to say - GO AWAY!

From the not so subtle, need to hit me over the head with a sledgehammer, Kiwi~

Keep SmilinHug

17 Sep 2008     



karen1980
Mexico

yes I know what you�re talking about ...it happens... i had some mistakes in two or three ws :( but i was lucky and the people who told me about them were friendly in their words... and thats the way it should be...not because we�re teachers we cant�t make mistakes...We learn everyday and as teachers we know that if you teach  with love its better for our ss so if we are going to correct someone�s mistake lets do it....with love!!!! (nice words, suggestions,) by the way i want to say THANK YOU!!!!... today�s ws are specially  greeeaaaattttt!!! I spent all the 30 ponits (and more!!!!) they are fantastic..BUT i couldt send comments because i had to open all the files in a different way and my kids were a little ???? active hahahah, so THANKS!!!! im learning with your work, with your comments...THANKS!!!!! you�re great teachers :)

17 Sep 2008     



spring
Turkey

Hi everybody,
In my opinion corrections should be done in a nice and friendly way too.
I don�t think there is a teacher in this community who lacks academic background and necessary grammar info needed for us.So if there are mistakes,these are occur �cos of other reasons like stress,being in a hurry,carelessness e.t.c.
Misunderstandings of course can occur.We are from different cultures.Our beliefs may be different.That�s why teachers are taught "pragmatics" in their education.But if these corrections are done rudely,simply to hurt s.body else�s feelings,then there is a problem.Minor things sometimes can have big effects on others.
 
 

17 Sep 2008     



danibauer
Brazil

Hi to all!
 
Goodness, I haven�t mentioned anything about to make private corrections! It must be done, but in my opinion we could just do it in a nicier way. I�m sorry if you all don�t agree with me, but that is my point of view.
 
Sorry if I started a polemic issue! That wasn�t my true intention!!! :)
 
Best Regards!!!!
 

17 Sep 2008     



goodnesses
Algeria

Sorry Dabauer but the 3 points at the end of your sentence "(
What makes me sad is the way that some colleagues try to "help" you, showing the problem... )" are quite misleading.

showing the problem to whom or in what way? publicly? to everybody? Because this what I guess the rest of your sentence is.

Sorry if you think I am wrong. This is the only way I can understand it and because still I don�t see where the rudeness or impoliteness in the message you received is.

Respect

18 Sep 2008     



Vickiii
New Zealand

Debauer - please do not apologise for creating such an interesting debate.  It has been highly enlightening to me.  In future I will consider very carefully before putting forward suggestions or identifying a problem.  It is important to be reminded that not every one has skin as thick as a rhinocerous (like me!).  It is important that we only give constructive comments rather than effect people in a negative way.  I personally would be devastated to hear I had hurt someones feelings.  I like to help people, maybe sometimes to enthusiastically.  Warm fuzzies!Hug

18 Sep 2008     

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