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zailda
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You �re right, Samantha. sometimes teachers let the students confuse the real role they have to play in class and instead of teachers they become their students � buddies.
Of course I do love my students but I �m their teacher so my duty is teaching English and not talking about their sexual lives or anything related to it. To instruct them, they have their parents who �ll do it according to their beliefs and moral values.
Teachers let the students do what they want and play the role of "cool buddies" but then they ask for help because they aren �t able to keep the discipline or students don �t respect them anymore. And they wonder why...
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21 Dec 2009
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kons
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Hi everybody
I saw the contribution you are talking about the first day it was on the eslprintables, but I delibrately didn �t want to say anything about it. for me it �s not a worksheet; it �s rather a very bad and immoral contribution sent with the aim of disturbing the dedicated group of teachers on board. it can be a very suitable material somewhere but not in the classroom for the simple reason that a teacher is not just teaching but educating as well.
And if a teacher is supposed to talk about topics related to sexual matters, she/he will definitely do that in an educational way in terms of context, language/ register,,....
finaly, I would say, as I understood from some emails, that not only teacher are members in the eslprintables, but also students and the latter may download such a contribution out of curiosity, for fun, and sometimes for a new and seducing information...
with respect
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21 Dec 2009
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MapleLeaf
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Well, I downloaded that worksheet too. When I looked what it�s about, it made me laugh. It�s funny� the language is just like in the movies, quite authentic. And it was written in there that it�s aimed for adults. Sure, it�s controversial to launch it in the classroom even for adult ss as there�re different cultures and there might be some problems, but the idea to make a lesson with a tinge of humor is fine. If we listen to some comedians on TV, we�ll hear the similar stuff.
As for the author�s other worksheets, I really liked them. |
21 Dec 2009
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zailda
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My question is: what if it wasn �t a copy?
Is there a button to report a ws as "inappropriate"? Or as "pornographic"? Or "using nasty vocabulary"?
What will we do next time someone uploads a ws like this - and it isn �t a copy?
Let it stay - because other teachers would like to use this kind of %@&$#@ in class?
Ask for removal - because of our personal beliefs on what a teacher should or shouldn �t do in class?
I confess this was a tricky one for me, it was the first time I refrained voting because I didn �t feel comfortable asking for removal but didn �t think it belongs here either.
EDIT: It was difficult to make up my mind BEFORE someone provided the link proving it�s a copy.
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21 Dec 2009
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kons
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Hi Zailda
Personally, I reported it as being irrelevant to ESL printables as there are limited reporting options. |
21 Dec 2009
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Carla Horne
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Wow! I �m gone for most of the day, and all types of interesting worksheets are being discussed. I have to admit that I was the one who called the first sheet "pormographic." I �m sorry, but I don �t care if my students use that language with their friends, but they had better not use it around me! Call me a "prude," but I can �t talk or write like that. I am a teacher; and even if my students are adults, I want to use proper terminology. I do answer their questions about birth control and sexual topics, but in a clinical manner. I would be too embarrassed to even try to speak that way.
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21 Dec 2009
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Samantha.esl
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Has anyone sent a copy of this discussion
to the �author� of the worksheet? Because she/he is a moderator and
probably gets a little puzzled to find out the worksheet was removed as
NOT an ESL resource.... or �copy�
What I see is that she took the letters from that site but the activity was designed by the member...
However, I think that the fact that it�s a copy doesn�t make it the right option for removal. On the other hand, there are far too many people defending it and saying they would use it in class. I agree that it�s funny, but I can�t help to feel extremely concerned by the kind of teachers that see no harm in taking such material to class. There are many other more �healthy� material to have a good laugh with...than being obsene.. and trying to be cool in front of students.. gosh! the more I think about it the more I get angry!
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21 Dec 2009
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ELOJOLIE274
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hello!
I admit some sentences are offensive, but sometimes you have to teach some slang to teenagers. Obviously I would never show my students any offensive pictures or give them a text full of offensive sentences, but for example if you show them extracts from TV series like desperate housewives there �s slang, and it �s our duty to explain to our students what it means! because we want to make them autonomous/independent, and it �s important for teenagers (over 15 or 16 I think) to realize that English is a "real language", that you can use it everyday even tough who don �t leave in an english-speaking country (watching TV, watching an ad - in France we have a famous one with George Clooney who says "what else?"...)
So I agree that obsene sentences are very wrong to teach, but if it can benefit the students well I think it �s okay. for example, you can ask a student to use a more polite language: "can you say "shagging the babysitter" differently?"... (in a different context than this ws)
Another thing and then I stop: the most important is the situation/context not the slang. For example, if you want to show your students an extract of a movie where there�s a gang, your purpose being to talk about gang violence, you cannot avoid slang and obsene sentences... are you going to avoid talking about what they say and concentrate on the images, or are you going to give tools to your students so that they understand what they say?
It �s up to the teacher to know what they can use, why, how, what for... - anyway I would have never used this ws as it was for teenagers, but this adults it seems fine to me.
I guess everyone has a different point fo view, let �s just make sure this website keeps providing us with wonderful ws!!!! |
21 Dec 2009
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priorita
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many years ago my english teacher (former special forces agent as we guessed) told us: "it may happen in real life when you realize that if you don �t know the trash you don �t know the language".
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21 Dec 2009
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MJ_Misa
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Honestly?
I was defending the ws (before David confirmed it �s a copy), but that �s doesn �t mean I would use it in the classroom (I am not so sick, babz;o).
But which one of you never edited wss? I have to edit the wss in 9 cases from 10. So I would easily edited this one too. I understand you feel offended, but don �t you watch TV? Don �t you listen to the radio, songs etc.? Don �t you mind that language there? Well I personally very often do. Just the other day I was shocked and forbid my 9-years-old daughter certain TV programme, because there were nasty and inappropriate words (there was written this programme was suitable for children from 5 years). And lately I noticed a lot of (specially) American tales for small children using nasty language.
But still I think this ws wasn �t suitable for the classroom the way it was, but after some changes it could be a good material. Of course if it wasn �t stolen.
Have a nice day and keep smiling, Michaela
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21 Dec 2009
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